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Mangusto: /* Add Elemental multiplier */

2026-01-04T23:58:01Z

Add Elemental multiplier

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	====Add Elemental multiplier====		====Add Elemental multiplier====
	Lastly, the damage is multiplied by the elemental multiplier, which range from 0 to 2, depending on the combination of attacking and defending ~~alements~~ (check [[~~Elemental Table~~]]. This is the final damage dealt by the attack or skill.<br>		Lastly, the damage is multiplied by the elemental multiplier, which range from 0 to 2, depending on the combination of attacking and defending elements (check the Elemental Table in the [[Elements]] page. This is the final damage dealt by the attack or skill.<br>
	The formula is as follows:<br>		The formula is as follows:<br>
	<nowiki>damage = Floor(damage * elementalMultiplier)</nowiki>		<nowiki>damage = Floor(damage * elementalMultiplier)</nowiki>

Mangusto: /* Add Elemental multiplier */

2026-01-04T23:57:05Z

Add Elemental multiplier

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	====Add Elemental multiplier====		====Add Elemental multiplier====
	Lastly, the damage is multiplied by the elemental multiplier, which ~~is 1 for neutral,~~ 0~~.5 for weak~~, and ~~2 for strong~~. This is the final damage dealt by the attack or skill.<br>		Lastly, the damage is multiplied by the elemental multiplier, which range from 0 to 2, depending on the combination of attacking and defending alements (check [[Elemental Table]]. This is the final damage dealt by the attack or skill.<br>
	The formula is as follows:<br>		The formula is as follows:<br>
	<nowiki>damage = Floor(damage * elementalMultiplier)</nowiki>		<nowiki>damage = Floor(damage * elementalMultiplier)</nowiki>

Mangusto: /* Add True Damage calculation */

2026-01-04T23:55:49Z

Add True Damage calculation

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	====Add True Damage calculation====		====Add True Damage calculation====
	Next, this damage is passed on to the True Damage reduction, in case the attacker has any. This takes a percentage of the attacker's attack power, before any reduction. Then the same percentage is reduced from the reduced damage, and the True Damage portion is added back into it.~~<br>~~		Next, this damage is passed on to the True Damage reduction, in case the attacker has any. This takes a percentage of the attacker's attack power, before any reduction. Then the same percentage is reduced from the reduced damage, and the True Damage portion is added back into it.

	The formula is as follows:<br>		The formula is as follows:<br>
	<nowiki>undefendedDamage = Floor(attackerAtk * (trueDamage / 100))</nowiki>		<nowiki>undefendedDamage = Floor(attackerAtk * (trueDamage / 100))</nowiki>

Mangusto: /* Add low level Flat reduction */

2026-01-04T23:55:34Z

Add low level Flat reduction

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	Another mechanism we use to help defense be more meaningful in the early game is a flat reduction linearly proportional to the defender's defense. Every 2 Def reduces 1 damage, up to 15 damage at 30 Def. This makes even 6 or 8 Def meaningful against a 20 damage hit, where about 8% would not be a lot of reduction.<br>		Another mechanism we use to help defense be more meaningful in the early game is a flat reduction linearly proportional to the defender's defense. Every 2 Def reduces 1 damage, up to 15 damage at 30 Def. This makes even 6 or 8 Def meaningful against a 20 damage hit, where about 8% would not be a lot of reduction.<br>
	This is calculated before the % reduction, so it is also less significant the more reduction the character has.		This is calculated before the % reduction, so it is also less significant the more reduction the character has.

	The formula is as follows:<br>		The formula is as follows:<br>
	<nowiki>damage = Floor((attackerAtk - flatReduction) * damagePercentage</nowiki>		<nowiki>damage = Floor((attackerAtk - flatReduction) * damagePercentage</nowiki>

Mangusto: /* Add low level Flat reduction */

2026-01-04T23:54:53Z

Add low level Flat reduction

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	====Add low level Flat reduction====		====Add low level Flat reduction====
	Another mechanism we use to help defense be more meaningful in the early game is a flat reduction linearly proportional to the defender's defense. Every 2 Def reduces 1 damage, up to 15 damage at 30 Def. This makes ~~it so that~~ even 6 or 8 Def ~~can decently help even for~~ a 20 damage hit, where about 8% would not be a lot of reduction.<br>		Another mechanism we use to help defense be more meaningful in the early game is a flat reduction linearly proportional to the defender's defense. Every 2 Def reduces 1 damage, up to 15 damage at 30 Def. This makes even 6 or 8 Def meaningful against a 20 damage hit, where about 8% would not be a lot of reduction.<br>
	This is calculated ~~after~~ the % reduction, so it is ~~not affected by~~ the % reduction.		This is calculated before the % reduction, so it is also less significant the more reduction the character has.
	The formula is as follows:<br>		The formula is as follows:<br>
	<nowiki>damage = Floor((attackerAtk * damagePercentage~~) - flatReduction~~</nowiki>		<nowiki>damage = Floor((attackerAtk - flatReduction) * damagePercentage</nowiki>

	====Add True Damage calculation====		====Add True Damage calculation====

Mangusto: /* Defense between 0 and 125 */

2026-01-04T23:39:29Z

Defense between 0 and 125

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	#The first points in DEF have a slightly stronger effect on the reduction with decreasing effectiveness, with 5 DEF reducing ~6% damage, 10 DEF reducing ~11% damage, 20 DEF reducing ~21%, up to 30 DEF reducing ~30%, and here the scales tip.<br>This is very nice for classes that do not stack a lot of VIT or defensive armor, they at least get a normal boost even with a couple DEF points.		#The first points in DEF have a slightly stronger effect on the reduction with decreasing effectiveness, with 5 DEF reducing ~6% damage, 10 DEF reducing ~11% damage, 20 DEF reducing ~21%, up to 30 DEF reducing ~30%, and here the scales tip.<br>This is very nice for classes that do not stack a lot of VIT or defensive armor, they at least get a normal boost even with a couple DEF points.
	#Then, from 30 up to 125, the effectiveness of each individual DEF point gets lower up to 125, where the reduction reaches 75%.<br>This prevents monsters and classes that hoard DEF, reaching 100 plus, of becoming invulnerable, while still giving them a strong damage reduction. It also allows us not having to artificially cap reduction at some arbitrary value.		#Then, from 30 up to 125, the effectiveness of each individual DEF point gets lower up to 125, where the reduction reaches 75%.<br>This prevents monsters and classes that hoard DEF, reaching 100 plus, of becoming invulnerable, while still giving them a strong damage reduction. It also allows us not having to artificially cap reduction at some arbitrary value.
	#Since this curve tends to an asymptote value lower than 0, we decided to use another one for DEF values above 125 (which are ~~very~~ hard to reach in the game right now)		#Since this curve tends to an asymptote value lower than 0, we decided to use another one for DEF values above 125 (which are relatively hard to reach in the game right now)

	====Defense higher than 125====		====Defense higher than 125====

Mangusto: /* Defense between 0 and 125 */

2026-01-04T23:39:08Z

Defense between 0 and 125

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	The characteristics of this curve are very nice for several reasons:		The characteristics of this curve are very nice for several reasons:
	#The first points in DEF have a slightly stronger effect on the reduction with decreasing effectiveness, with 5 DEF reducing ~6% damage, 10 DEF reducing ~11% damage, 20 DEF reducing ~21%, up to 30 DEF reducing ~30%, and here the scales tip.<br>This is very nice for classes that do not stack a lot of VIT or defensive armor, they at least get a normal boost even with a couple DEF points.		#The first points in DEF have a slightly stronger effect on the reduction with decreasing effectiveness, with 5 DEF reducing ~6% damage, 10 DEF reducing ~11% damage, 20 DEF reducing ~21%, up to 30 DEF reducing ~30%, and here the scales tip.<br>This is very nice for classes that do not stack a lot of VIT or defensive armor, they at least get a normal boost even with a couple DEF points.
	#Then, from 30 up to 125, the effectiveness of each individual DEF point gets lower up to 125, where the reduction reaches 75%.<br>This ~~avoids~~ monsters and classes that hoard DEF ~~to reach~~ 100 plus ~~and be~~ invulnerable, while still giving them a ~~very nice~~ damage reduction. It also allows us to not ~~have~~ to artificially cap reduction at some arbitrary value.		#Then, from 30 up to 125, the effectiveness of each individual DEF point gets lower up to 125, where the reduction reaches 75%.<br>This prevents monsters and classes that hoard DEF, reaching 100 plus, of becoming invulnerable, while still giving them a strong damage reduction. It also allows us not having to artificially cap reduction at some arbitrary value.
	#Since this curve tends to an asymptote value lower ~~then~~ 0, we decided to use another one for DEF values above 125 (which are very hard to reach in the game right now)		#Since this curve tends to an asymptote value lower than 0, we decided to use another one for DEF values above 125 (which are very hard to reach in the game right now)

	====Defense higher than 125====		====Defense higher than 125====

Mangusto: /* Reasoning for the chosen system */

2026-01-04T23:15:54Z

Reasoning for the chosen system

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	That leaves us with our only alternative being a type of formula that many MOBAs use, as well as some MMOs, an inverse multiplicative of the DEF. Something in the likes of A + B/(C + DEF). A very famous one is just 100/(100 + DEF), where damage is x1.0 when DEF is 0, x0.5 when DEF is 100, x0.3333... when DEF is 200, and so on.		That leaves us with our only alternative being a type of formula that many MOBAs use, as well as some MMOs, an inverse multiplicative of the DEF. Something in the likes of A + B/(C + DEF). A very famous one is just 100/(100 + DEF), where damage is x1.0 when DEF is 0, x0.5 when DEF is 100, x0.3333... when DEF is 200, and so on.

	Having our old system in mind, where 50 DEF was already a respectable amount, and wanting to retain 50 as the defense value that mitigated exactly 50% of the damage, we tinkered with the formula a bit to find curves that suited our needs. We needed 2 different ones, one from 0 to <del>100</del>125, and another one that is used for extreme cases where def is higher than <del>100</del>.		Having our old system in mind, where 50 DEF was already a respectable amount, and wanting to retain 50 as the defense value that mitigated exactly 50% of the damage, we tinkered with the formula a bit to find curves that suited our needs. We needed 2 different ones, one from 0 to <del>100</del>125, and another one that is used for extreme cases where def is higher than <del>100</del>125.

	===Defense Formulas===		===Defense Formulas===

Mangusto: /* Reasoning for the chosen system */

2026-01-04T23:15:36Z

Reasoning for the chosen system

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	That leaves us with our only alternative being a type of formula that many MOBAs use, as well as some MMOs, an inverse multiplicative of the DEF. Something in the likes of A + B/(C + DEF). A very famous one is just 100/(100 + DEF), where damage is x1.0 when DEF is 0, x0.5 when DEF is 100, x0.3333... when DEF is 200, and so on.		That leaves us with our only alternative being a type of formula that many MOBAs use, as well as some MMOs, an inverse multiplicative of the DEF. Something in the likes of A + B/(C + DEF). A very famous one is just 100/(100 + DEF), where damage is x1.0 when DEF is 0, x0.5 when DEF is 100, x0.3333... when DEF is 200, and so on.

	Having our old system in mind, where 50 DEF was already a respectable amount, and wanting to retain 50 as the defense value that mitigated exactly 50% of the damage, we tinkered with the formula a bit to find curves that suited our needs. We needed 2 different ones, one from 0 to 100, and another one that is used for extreme cases where def is higher than 100.		Having our old system in mind, where 50 DEF was already a respectable amount, and wanting to retain 50 as the defense value that mitigated exactly 50% of the damage, we tinkered with the formula a bit to find curves that suited our needs. We needed 2 different ones, one from 0 to <del>100</del>125, and another one that is used for extreme cases where def is higher than <del>100</del>.

	===Defense Formulas===		===Defense Formulas===

Mangusto: /* Reasoning for the chosen system */

2026-01-04T23:12:06Z

Reasoning for the chosen system

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	So a decoupled approach works best, where increasing Defense means having a percentage of the attacker's Attack power mitigated, without the numbers being directly subtracted. But how to turn Defense into % damage reduction? Simply using the number directly brings us another problem: 100% reduction is a hard ceiling, and it would mean achieving 100 Defense has to either be impossible, otherwise that character is impervious to damage, or we cap reduction at a certain arbitrary value and increasing DEF after that point does nothing.		So a decoupled approach works best, where increasing Defense means having a percentage of the attacker's Attack power mitigated, without the numbers being directly subtracted. But how to turn Defense into % damage reduction? Simply using the number directly brings us another problem: 100% reduction is a hard ceiling, and it would mean achieving 100 Defense has to either be impossible, otherwise that character is impervious to damage, or we cap reduction at a certain arbitrary value and increasing DEF after that point does nothing.

	That leaves us with a type of formula that many MOBAs use, as well as some MMOs, an inverse multiplicative of the DEF. Something in the likes of A + B/(C + DEF). A very famous one is just 100/(100 + DEF), where damage is x1.0 when DEF is 0, x0.5 when DEF is 100, x0.3333... when DEF is 200, and so on.		That leaves us with our only alternative being a type of formula that many MOBAs use, as well as some MMOs, an inverse multiplicative of the DEF. Something in the likes of A + B/(C + DEF). A very famous one is just 100/(100 + DEF), where damage is x1.0 when DEF is 0, x0.5 when DEF is 100, x0.3333... when DEF is 200, and so on.

	Having our old system in mind, where 50 DEF was already a respectable amount, and wanting to retain 50 as the defense value that mitigated exactly 50% of the damage, we tinkered with the formula a bit to find curves that suited our needs. We needed 2 different ones, one from 0 to 100, and another one that is used for extreme cases where def is higher than 100.		Having our old system in mind, where 50 DEF was already a respectable amount, and wanting to retain 50 as the defense value that mitigated exactly 50% of the damage, we tinkered with the formula a bit to find curves that suited our needs. We needed 2 different ones, one from 0 to 100, and another one that is used for extreme cases where def is higher than 100.